April 16, 2021

Dr. Kevin Butterfield -The Whole Story

Dr. Kevin Butterfield -The Whole Story

You've seen the clips- here's the uninterrupted masterpiece!


2:47 Kevin's father was a doctor for the Detoit Tigers
3:58 Kevin was a bully in 3rd -4th grade and this led to his interest in treating the brain...
5:03 The origin of Andy's Trampoline Foundation. .
9:10 Kevin and Julie's motivation to start the BRAINFOREST neurofeedback clinic in honor of Andy Silverman.
9:50 Kevin studied racing accident films frame by frame.
10:59 The "secondary collision".
12:56 Racing safety "the Virtual canopy" wellness racing.wordpress.com.
15:33 Exotic car driving days.
16:36The 500LB patient (as a chiropractor)
21:00 as single father and coming back from rock bottom.
25:43 Bad to worse. Living in the car, in a garage.
28:55 And worse yet. Car burns up on way to first day of job with all belongings and kids clothes in it.
30:33 But he did use it as material in that nights comedy club act.
36:21 Selling cars in Florida (well, car) - Thank you #Chris Warren
39:24 pre-selling chiropractic treatments over the phone for gas and food money to get back to Indiana.
39:36 Yet still giving back.
41:38 Hospitalized kids signing the race car...and one that didn't make it to race day :(
43:50 texting and driving vs light pole
45:39 Deceased kid in wreck photo

47:02 On Neurofeedback- PTSD / depression / autism/ addiction
50:00 people driving 1.5 hours per direction for a treatment...

Transcript

Kevin Butterfield - FULL AUDIO

Fri, 4/16 12:26PM • 53:54

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

car, kids, brain, people, racing, chiropractic, big, neurofeedback, problem, kevin, driving, day, tie, rent, money, laugh, andy, stay, life, face

SPEAKERS

Jeff Sterns

 

00:02

Jeff Sterns connected through cars, if they're bigwigs, we'll have him on the show and yes, we'll talk about cars and everything else. Here he is now, Jeff Sterns,

 

Jeff Sterns  00:20

Jeff Sterns, with Dr. Butterfield on Jeff Sterns connected through cars I'm very proud to have Kevin on the show. Kevin is in the business of neurofeedback, which can map a patient's brain so that later after an injury, they could actually train the brain back to prior to an accident. Nevin has a racing safety patent that f1 uses a part of

 

00:47

correct thank Well said. Well

 

Jeff Sterns  00:48

said, Jeff. Also, Kevin has some very interesting stories about his own racing mayhem. But I'll talk about at least driving the race car home. That's how

 

00:57

we met all these years ago is is from what I do. I did my chiropractic internship down there when I was doing that. And you were a patient, and you tried to get me my first car down there. So I mean, we do have a car connection we still do now. And wow. I mean, come on,

 

Jeff Sterns  01:15

Kevin. So there's no doubt we have a car connection, or that we were connected through the car business. I mean, you were you were an intern at a chiropractor office studying to get your license, I'm assuming or be a full fledged, or you're already a chiropractor?

 

01:29

No, I had to do my internship first and take the boards and I never never passed it down. That's political. I mean, it's not so I took it twice. And I failed it twice down there. And every other student took it in the past the first thing you know, yeah, well, that's

 

Jeff Sterns  01:42

what I said about my school grades. It must be political. But

 

01:45

is

 

Jeff Sterns  01:47

it is your you were already related through the car business, because you were a chiropractor. So you're in the business of mainly helping people that got in car wrecks. Correct? Let's face it, come on. But what we've discovered over the years, because we go back over 30 years is that you are a car not and you are connected to the car industry, and you are a car owner, and for a minute you are a car seller. And if I'm not mistaken, you are even a full year from a car burning. What? Leaving a car that was on fire? Yeah, yeah. If we can talk about that. I don't know,

 

02:22

that we can talk about all that stuff. I mean, it's a story. You know. I mean, my life is pretty interesting. I mean, it's like, I mean, it's like, you know, I'm a circus without a tent, I got a bunch of things going on all the time, you know, I got 10 things going on. At the same time, in case something doesn't work, it always gets the most to go to what I always have entrepreneurial, I guess, brain, I guess, you know, I did the chiropractic stuff, or my dad was a brain surgeon, you know, I was always fascinated with the brain. And he was a doctor for the Tigers, Tiger Stadium. And I always went to home games with him, you know, when there was a home game, but we never got to see a home game because he always got called into the hospital to do brain surgery, you know, fire accidents, or gunshots or whatever. So he put me in the observation booth to watch some of these surgeries as a kid. So probably from the age of eight to 10. I saw a lot of them with this poking around in the brain. So I got to see a lot of that. And that was kind of my passion. And that's the path that I want it to go down. But he told me, no, you don't want to go down that path. Because you got to cut through all the good to get to the bad when you come back out. It's all bad, right? So he said, find a natural, holistic way to do it. So he recommended chiropractic. So I did that I, you know, got my my license in that back in 91. And then I had to do my internship when I went down to Clearwater, that's where we met. I love doing it. My practice in Arizona, in Indiana. And I got out of chiropractic like six years ago to focus on what I really wanted to which was back to the brains. Right. And there's a reason I had to go back to the brains because this is another part of my life that it's hard. This is gonna be hard to believe. But in third grade, third and fourth grade, I was a bully. Not a physical bully, but a metal bully. Right friend of mine, his name is Andy Silverman. I'm sure he's gonna watch this, but he was my little Jewish buddy. He gets mad when I say you're my little Jewish buddy. I don't know why, but he always was. We went to the same school and again, this is third grade, and this

 

Jeff Sterns  04:16

was blue. This was West Bloomfield, Michigan, if I'm not

 

04:19

mistaken.

 

Jeff Sterns  04:20

So there you know, there's a lot of Jewish buddies but continued.

 

04:24

Absolutely. So, but this one especially. So he was different. Nobody knew what was wrong with him. He thought I hung the moon and you know, he was wanting to be my best friend and you know everything else, but I always I would always pick on him mentally. You know, like, I make jokes about him in front of him.

 

Jeff Sterns  04:40

And he does not know she didn't understand what was going on. So it did he think it was a little funny because he couldn't pick up that it was at his expense.

 

04:47

Yeah, he laughed cuz I laughed because everyone else left. Okay, but it all happened to him or we're all laughing because of him or whatever. So anyway, I remember two instances where this one time the teacher asked Who wants to go clean these

 

05:03

Blackboard erasers? You know, I said I do. And the teacher said, you can pick one friend that clean erasers with you. Who do you want to pick? Of course, nobody raised their hand. But Andy jumped up and raised his hand said, Pick me Pick me Pick me. I was looking around everyone else because they weren't standing up, you know? And then I said, Okay, I'll take Andy, come on. So as soon as we walked out the door, I took those chalkboard erasers, and I smacked him on the head with them. Right? He had all this big curly hair, we walk turn right around, went back into class, he looked like George Washington, you know, because it's all here. It was all chopped up. So class, and everyone else was laughing. And he was looking at me, like, What do I do? Do I laugh too? And you know, so it was heartbreaking back then. Right? So then another incident was we had a trampoline, they came to the school, you know, as some new fancy thing that, okay, your school will get it for a day, take it to a next school like a traveling trampoline show. So I was back there taking telling Andy to sit and stay in the back of the gym, because I'm going to jump in jump and jump. And when I say it's your turn, you can go. Right, What a dick. So I remember him getting excited when you see me making my lap around it. He says, Can I go now? Can I go now? And I said no, you cannot go now. So we did that the whole hour, right? And then finally, when they came around for the last time he goes, this is about at the end of the period, right? He goes, Can I go now? And I said yes, you can go. And he started to run to the trampoline and the bell rang. Wow. And then he was like I could I could visualize what he's wearing that day. I remember him trying to avoid the teachers who were trying to get him to get him away from the trampoline, because the class was over with. He just wanted to experience the trampoline he never did. So then he came back to me and he you know, he was crying, right? He was crying. And I said to myself, well, if I can make somebody cry for saying no to them, I'm never gonna say no to them again. And again, this is third grade, he went somewhere else in fourth and I went to a different school and fourth grade to never heard from him again. But from that point on, I was now the physical bully candy guy. If somebody is going to make fun of a slow person, they come to me this Well, I was I was buddies with all the slow people that they have a problem. They come to me and say so and so's picking on me, I go talk to so and so and talk to them about it. Right? So I was now more like the physical bullies trying to help, you know. Anyway. So once we did went our separate ways, I went in the military, and all it could do is think about this Andy kid. So I remember I wrote like Oprah or Dr. Phil back then or something like that. This was when I was in the military. I said, I want to find this Andy Silverman kid, I love Jewish buddy, because I want to sit and look at him face to face and say, first of all, I'm sorry. And second of all, I want to thank him for making making me who I am today. Because it was him. And it also anyway, I could never find him. So then Facebook comes along. And five years ago or so. I recognize this picture. I said, all there's my little Jewish friend with no curly hair anymore, but I know that smile. That's him. So I reached out to him. I said, Andy, give me your number, I gotta call you. And again, nobody knew what was wrong with him. Right? Some was a little different, but nobody knew back then. So he gave me his number. I called him up and said, Andy, and before I said anything, he said, I want you to help me find a girlfriend. I said, Andy, I'll help you find a girlfriend. Okay? You got to be nice to him, buy her flowers, open her door, get a nice suit, make sure it fits and throw in some thick Tex, you know, if I was trying to help this kid, right? Get a girlfriend cuz that's all he wanted. Right? So after all these years, I didn't get to say I'm sorry. I said, I will help you get a girlfriend Andy. No problem. And then he said it was quiet. He goes, What if she won't let me jump on the trampoline? I said any then that's not the right one for you. So he carried that thing, you know, with him his whole life sort of lie. Right? So that was really heartbreaking to me to hear that. But I said Andy, I'm doing stuff. That's why I started this neurofeedback stuff the brain force centers because I don't want to see any other anti silver men out there. That's different. Being on the other side of the fence. I want them on the other side with everybody else. So that's why I started the brain force back in the day to make sure there's no more Andy Silverman's or help as many as I can. So that's why this kid's been sticking around for the whole time. But I told him when I was done with the first call. I said, Andy, we are going to get we're going to help so many people throughout our lives long after we're gone because we're going to start a foundation we're going to call it Andy's trampoline with what we're doing here to help him right now by the kids and fearful cat. So that's that's that route. And like you said that I am in an avid car nut, I would study because we had nothing else to do. frame by frame accidents. You know where to get the videotapes is a kid looking at the impact angles, what caused This driver to die What caused him to get hurt? What could have prevented that? So that was my thing, even as a kid, right? That's what my I love racing. I always do. And you know, you don't want to make it, the racing. So vanilla that nobody gets hurt or grandma can get out there and drive and you know, get on the podium. So I came up with ideas, I guess. So I got so many pieces of the puzzle that are coming together. And you want me to say what made me do this patent thing? Well, Kevin, stop. You want a seventh seventh inning stretch right now. Thanks

 

Jeff Sterns  10:29

for thanks for allowing me to participate in a show. Yeah.

 

10:34

Yeah. If you got something to say, go ahead. So no,

 

Jeff Sterns  10:39

I'm where I am interested in we are in I'm sure the audience is interested in? How do you end up coming up with a safety component? What makes you interested in looking at safety? And then how did you come up with it? And what is it? or What is it? And then well, first of all,

 

10:56

you know, I mean, what back in the 50s or 60s, you know, you lost about, you know, two drivers a month, three drivers a month or something like that. And back then it was mostly fires, you know, you strapped to a bomb and some metal gas tank and those things rupture, then the whole thing's on fire. Right? They get the bladders. But see, the problem that I saw was when like Dan Wheldon died, right, I watch that tape over and over and over and over again, just like he did every other one before that always is a 15. Right? There's always a secondary collision. That is the deadly ones. Like if you watch it, then well then crash there was five cars it's kind of fun of them because he got in the air and went airborne started down well, then he got the catch fence. So if you can stop that the secondary collisions, there's the secondary blow overs or, or stuff like that. I mean, you can pretty much have the problem minimized. I mean, right now, the first guy is gonna crash. Okay, that's you're gonna crash that's racing, right. But the secondary and supplemental stuff you can prevent. And part of that the Formula One I can't go into much detail out of, but it's the virtual safety car was a piece of the one that took out ours all these years back. But our thing is to have the cars talking to each other cars, throw the flags, not the people in the stands, or the flag guy, right? Because the flag guy before, you know, I've done interviews with these track marshals and stuff like that the safety workers, and when they see smoke, right, they feel the flag, but the time that smoke registers your brain to register your hand to throw the flag. So much time has passed, and all the cars have traveled another couple 100 feet, couple, you know, few football fields. And after all the secondary stuff comes in. So what if the cars themselves, the first car that causes the accident can throw the flag, right, the telemetry is off, it knows what it's doing. But all the cars talk to each other. So you know where the other one is in space and time. So they're not running over each other. They're not getting up in the fence. They're not getting through the fence, right. So that's the piece that's one of the pieces, there's a lot of other pieces. But that's a big thing, too, right. And then I was sitting there complaining about the that Halo thing that we're putting on the guard. And then on the on the cockpit, it's a halo thing to keep debris from coming at you did say that Formula One driver, but I have like a virtual canopy. And the first car was a flag, it's got radar going out, it knows what trash is brought bouncing down the track. So with telemetry, you can make sure that piece does not hit the cockpit of the car. That's common toward it. Right? So it's all you know, the physics and the telemetry and so it'd be like a virtual canopy. That's another piece of mine. I mean, I got all this stuff kind of laid out, kind of I got to keep stuff quiet on some things up on my blog that was racing that WordPress calm. So if you want to

 

Jeff Sterns  13:39

racing wellness racing.wordpress.com. Now, if I and we'll make sure to put that in the show notes. Kevin. Now if I recall, you had a blog that you couldn't find or couldn't log into my head.

 

13:52

That's the one. So I mean, I wrote from the very first accident and racing all the way to when I lost the password, which is about six years ago, but everything else is current. Right. So yeah, you can look on that. But I mean, it's the racing thing has been

 

Jeff Sterns  14:08

so what parts are, what parts are f1 using? What are they using in Europe? Well, it's a

 

14:13

virtual safety car that's all I can say on that one. They bought a Derek Daly bought that to them like six years ago, seven years ago, whenever started and they said you can try that. There is more to it though, which I can't discuss which will something happens when the nose of the car gets off the ground at a certain speed at certain heights. Something else happens I can't some of some of these flaps and stuff the aero flaps, they keep the cars on the track. That's part of it. But again, you got to develop all that stuff. You have to it was bought forth in Paris with Formula One when they had their annual meeting twice about the stuff we had and everyone was for it. Everyone loved everything it did set team India I think had a minor problem with it, but everyone else was all on board with it. So anyway, that's That's that, you know, I got too many things going on, you know, I

 

Jeff Sterns  15:02

can't. We'll be cutting that out because no information.

 

15:06

No edits, no information. Cut it up, please.

 

Jeff Sterns  15:08

So you raised yourself a little bit, didn't you?

 

15:11

I just just here and they're overseas in here. Yes. I mean, it's like track days and stuff like that. I mean, it's nothing. Open wheel. Nothing, you know, fancy like that. But I did, I did figure out the sponsor thing. Remember? That's a totally different thing.

 

Jeff Sterns  15:26

Yes. And then you are also in the business of having exotic car track days. Yeah, the arriving drive? Yes.

 

15:33

This is when a brand the time that we wanted to start the brain for Center, which is actually the center helping these kids. You know, we had to bootstrap it. I mean, it was a company down in Miami that wanted to give us a million bucks, fly down and meet the bankers sign the paperwork, blah, blah, blah. So we did all the stuff they wanted us to do when we got there, you'll get a term sheet in three days, we never got one. So I was doing the the exotic car arriving drives before we went to that Miami thing, where we just travel all over the country and you know, be the driving instructor in the parking lots or whatever. But I saw how big the crowds were. But we said why don't we Why don't we rent a Lamborghini and Ferrari. And let's do the same thing. And we can raise the money for our centers that way. Right. So that's what we did a few times. Anyway. So that was fun. But let's get out of that. The people we got him from we rented the Lambo and the Ferrari for the weekend, right? They couldn't get insurance anymore. So we had to stop. Oh, that settles that.

 

Jeff Sterns  16:32

You're a chiropractor down and you're

 

16:34

doing the chiropractic stuff. I just got out of school. I knew everything. You can't tell me anything. I was that kind of cocky guy. I remember Dr. Brown said, Hey, why don't you go in there and adjust that guy said with a grin on his face. He said, Okay. So I had this, you know, $100 Nicole Miller tie on. I was dressed to the nines. And I walked in. And I, the biggest guy I've ever seen in my entire life was sitting in there. He was like 500 pounds, right? He was he looked he was wearing white sweats. That's a good color choice or Michelin, but so slimming. slimming. So anyway, his arms are sticking straight out like a snowman. Right? But he was so big. I couldn't see the table. So it was looked like it was a floating marshmallow in the room. Right? I said what brings you in? Because that back pain? And I said, No kidding. I told this guy lay down, right? So I'm sitting there and he's a big, he's a he's a thick slab of meat, you know, with him on the table. He was like, a foot from my chin. He was that thick. So I remember I strapped his ankles in, put my hand on his back. And I started stretching his back, right? Because you know, I was trying to get some distraction going on in there, right? And if you can visualize where things are in that room with him on his stomach. My hand was his low back. My other hand was down there by his feet. And my tie was right there in corn Canyon, let's say right? It was just sitting there. Alright, so I'm pushing on this guy's back. He said you didn't get it. And I said, I got it. He goes, No, you didn't. I didn't hear any pop either. Right. But I knew everything. I said, Yeah, got it. He goes, No push harder. I say, Okay, I'll push her. So put my hand on his back and my feet came off the ground like I was on a pommel horse in the Olympics. I gave everything I had. I didn't hear anything that time either, right? But I look straight down in his ass was getting close to my face. Right? It was like his as cheat for contracting like a tsunami around the globe. Right? I should have gotten I should have backed up right. So I was just wondering what the hell I'm looking at. And so I learned a valuable lesson that day that when somebody that big lets one go they know before you know. Okay, you know that you're watching a Godzilla movie the lips move then you hear the sound was kind of like that. He knew what was up when you're trying to catch his mistake was last cheeks right? By the time I realized what it was his ass cheeks were just about at my chin. My tie was fully engulfed, right. So I did not want to back up and embarrass this guy. Let him know that I was in his junk. So I just stayed there till till it was done. Right. So and this is not a lie either. Again, when you learn something new when your own big people that close to their private area. I felt the wind and the heat coming off of that because my face is right there, right with my tie. So he got up and he wiggles around a little bit. And he goes, I think you got it. I got you think I got it? No, I got it. Right. And I'm sitting there taking my $100 tie off. This is a true story. And I threw it at him. He goes what's that tie for? I said you steam pressed to Krishna thing I'll never get out of there. I don't want to back. Oh my god. Yes, sir. Well, I don't know if you're the best guest I've ever had. No one's gonna top that fart story like that. But anyway, so that war

 

Jeff Sterns  19:49

if that's the best thing that'll end up on the cutting room floor.

 

19:53

That's the only thing that's saved. Just save that one. That could be the start. Oh my god. Thank

 

Jeff Sterns  19:58

you, Kevin.

 

20:00

No, no those. So anyway, there's a lot of hazard stuff that goes on like that, that I really don't appreciate that's happened more than once you told the patient.

 

Jeff Sterns  20:08

You just steam pressed it into my tie,

 

20:11

and I will never get that out. You can have the tie. I did. He kept he walked out with it. I don't know if he ate it on the way to the parking lot or what but yeah, he's done. He took it.

 

Jeff Sterns  20:21

So can we talk about your family?

 

20:23

We want to talk about Yes, talk about everything.

 

Jeff Sterns  20:26

Well, you got kids, I don't know what you want them to hear. But, you know, you're really an amazing father.

 

20:32

Now they'll hear everything anyway. Um, alright, so

 

Jeff Sterns  20:36

let me see. This is the time when you end up you ended up being I mean, I'm single and bother over some boys remarried. But you are like in their mom was only a few blocks away and sees them alternating whatever. But you were a single father single father.

 

21:00

Yeah, I guess I had sole custody. I was with them. As twins, they were maybe eight and older boys. 10. I have sole custody. So they're with me 24 seven. And we'll just leave it at that. I mean, they were with me all the time. Okay. I knew that the practice I was working at and Connersville was going to go down because the factory that was there was going to close and that's where 85% of my patients came from, from the factory. Right. So, and on a side note that I'm proud of, I never left them, even though they lost their job had no money, stuff like that. I stayed there to take care of them, right. I'm very I'm very proud of myself for that, but we had to get some other endeavor going on. So I was going to open up a neurofeedback office. That's what I wanted to do. So I found a place closer to home where I could do the neurofeedback stuff. I went and saw a nice cute little building in front of this factory. So go check on that. I went to check on the on the rent on that building. And the owner of the factory was super cool. He got me in there. So I started doing the neurofeedback on my way home a few nights a week until the practice had to close and then it'd be their full time the guy that owned that building. He said, Hey, why don't you come on over for Christmas dinner? My son is doing Beef Wellington. Is it a culinary school or something like that? I said, Okay, sure. So his house was like a 10,000 square foot home. Eight bedroom 10 bath. basketball court upstairs on 10 acres. Right.

 

Jeff Sterns  22:31

Wow.

 

22:32

I was very impressed with the house. Very cool. So anyway, accelerate up maybe a maybe a year and a year later. I couldn't get the business going there because there was only there a couple hours a night. I could not do the neurofeedback, so I had to close it right. So you're later I came back. And I was gonna tell they already rented that little building in front of the factory. I came back and I was going to open up in the same area because it was doing good in the beginning, right? So when I drove by that big houses for sale sign in the front of the yard, and in the factory where he owned the flags at half staff. I thought maybe the guy died, right. So I went in there to tell the girls Anyway, I'll be in the area. Blah, blah, blah. So So what's his Joe? Is his? Did he die? Or some was? What's the flag at half staff for his houses for sale? He go Oh, no, he moved to Florida. But his partner killed himself in church. That's where the flags at half staff. So anyway, the guy who was taking over the factory for this guy that moved to Florida who owned it, right? He said why don't you rent that house in the boss's house that big house, right? So I don't need a big house like that. I have no interest in it. And then he kept calling me want me to buy it? I said no, I'll rent it. Right? If you can rent it to me for what I'm paying for my rent now and my other house, I'll just take it right? He said deal. So I got that house for like 1300 bucks a month, huge house. The benefit of that is if you get one room dirty, you can move to the next one. And the next one, right? So you never have to clean. So we went in there. And I said, I'm going to take another stab at this office bootstrapping everything myself. Right was like nothing left in your pocket. So I said, I'm going to start it again. But I'm telling you if I can't make it work, I can't pay the rent. Are we clear on that? I was just taking a stab in the dark again. I had the kids with me, right? And he said yes. That's not a problem at all. So he wanted me there in the wintertime make sure the pipes don't freeze or something like that is what my guess is, you know why you gave it so cheap. So I said okay, cool. So anyway, we did a five month run at that practice, but the rent was so much and there was no more income from that other office on Connersville that we had to close and I told the guy, hey, I gotta find something else. This is where we got together later. So anyway, so he said, That's not a problem to stay there. You the kids can stay there. Right. So we stayed there and then If you've got a buyer, we're out. So we say there may be free rent for four months. And he said, I got a buyer. I said, Okay, we're out of here. So I took everything we owned, we put it on Craigslist or sold everything. bicycles, you know, kids stuff, everything gone. Because we needed some money to hold over until we got that on the job, right? We took everything else that we didn't sell. We put it in the trunk of the car that Lincoln Lincoln, Lincoln ls the nice car, right? So jam packed that trunk for everything else. That was our dresser, we went to a hotel. We stayed there for a little bit. Right? And then the money ran out there. So I went to this guy who had that big house. And I said, Look, do you mind if we stay in your garage? I know you sold the house. Could we sit in your garage for a few days I get a job lined up? He said sure. So maybe the kids went sat in the car in the garage as we just rented. We were there. Alright, so

 

Jeff Sterns  25:57

let me let me interrupt here. If you don't mind, you go right ahead. I just want to repaint this picture. I want to clarify this. So we've all been in tough spots. I mean, I talked to another fellow actually the owner of St. Elmo Steakhouse near you, in Indianapolis. And he went through a time, even though he's done quite well in his life where he was selling his paid for cars, and then leasing a car so that he can get a little furniture in the apartment or condo that he was living in where they had TV sitting on top of the TV box has furniture. I mean, now he's owner and partner with his son of one of the nation's most famous steak houses, he took steak and shake public, he took noble Roman pizza public, he had a number of ventures mustards in your area. But he there's always this backstory, and this is what it's yours is reminding me of yours a little bit tougher. Because I want the audience to think about what it would be like, you've got the kids with you. You've got all your belongings in the trunk of the Lincoln. And you've run out of money to the point where you can't even stay one night at a hotel. And I'm imagining that it wasn't the Hyatt, correct. You were staying in?

 

27:15

Yes, it does get worse, but it does get better. So right.

 

Jeff Sterns  27:19

You're staying in a budget hotel. And it gets to the point because I know from a pride and convenience and having your kids sleeping in the car because your father in a garage standpoint, you really have to have no option before you're gonna have to call a guy whose house you know is sold who already helped you and you don't want to put them out anymore to say, Can we just so we don't get picked up for sleeping in a car behind a 711? Can we at least close the garage door? We're going to sleep in this car. Correct? Like Where were you? What was that? Like in that moment? Where were you emotionally?

 

27:53

Well, you gotta be strong for the kids. And you got to always think you know, 10 steps ahead? What what are you going to do? Where are you going? That's not bleach? Is it? Where are you going to go? What do you what are you going to do? I mean, okay, when you when people say life page, baby in the corner, right? Did not paint in the corner and you just stand there, wait for the paint to dry and walk back out. Do it again. So I knew there was an answer. You know, if you call any place to get a job and say you're a doctor, what are you doing all these years I've been a doctor, they're not going to hire you. Because they know you're going to bail. Right? So they don't want to hire you. You go get a chiropractic job. They they eat they're young and don't pay it. Right. I couldn't even find one. Don't pay me Just give me a job. Right. So anyway, I found a job. Finally, through some connections, I said, Okay, I gotta take the kids to school and go to my new job, right? So I'm sitting there, getting their clothes out of the truck. And this thing was packed, how you can even put an extra molecule in there, right? They'd have to go in the glove box. Right? So this effect, so I dropped the kids off at school. I'm heading down to you know, it's about an hour and a half away for this job. I would have had to commute that right. So I'm driving to the job. The lights start flickering on the dashboard. As a typical guy, I said I'll get that later. I'm going 80 miles an hour on the highway. I look in my rearview mirror and smokes pouring in. I said Well, I better pull over and get that now. Right. So what happened is my trunk was on fire because the battery for the cars in the trunk and impacted so much I shorted the damn battery out, you know, stuffing the damn trunk with everything. Some pole over on the side of the road. All I could think about was I must have looked like Cheech and Chong get out of the car when I open the door because the whole thing was a smoke billowing everywhere right. So I got out I did make it off the side of the road but I'm the only thing I could think about is what the hell the kid's gonna wear to school tomorrow. So I got out pop the truck started. Reach into the fire, grabbing anything just throwing it behind me right in my sleeves were all burnt up. Am I Tai was burnt up to a knot, especially getting squished into one guy's ass. But it's it's still. So as burned up to a knot, right, and I looked at everything I threw behind me was on fire anyway, so I said, screw it. And I just sat there and I just started crying. I haven't done it forever, while everyone else was busy with their day driving by to get to their job, right. So I called my new bosses my first day, said, You're not gonna believe this. And they hung up on me, right? What am I gonna do? Right? So I mean, he really can't make up the story that bad, but it was that bad. Right? So I wrote a bad night's ad account comedy show, actually. And I left my burn clothes out of my tie. That was part of the Act. Part of my act called life, right? They didn't know what to make of that. So

 

Jeff Sterns  30:46

I just Oh, Kevin, let's be you know, let's help the audience. So another thing that Kevin does is open mic night. Have you gotten paid or just amateur? Oh,

 

30:56

the longest show? I mean, okay, we know we're gonna sidetrack again, because I'm so good. sidetracking I'll get back to the car to second and my jobs, right? No, I it's six minutes. You do six minutes sets it like a comedy club. I can't do six minutes. Look at me. Now. I keep talking. I don't shut up. So I did this six minute thing for a while I did some funniest comics and Midwest tours. And I've been all the comedy clubs in Indiana. And since Ohio, the big ones. And I went and did a funniest comic in the Midwest in Michigan. It the laugh tracks, you know, that doesn't know why. No, I went up there like four other comics, right? They said, Bring your best five minutes. I said, Oh, cool. Let me drive all that way. for five minutes. It sounds well worth it. I went anyway. And I was with like two or three other comics, they already went, right. So they said they'd never called my name. So I went out there and said, You never called my name. They Hand me the mic and said, Oh, good. You're closing out the show. And I said, Well, how much time I got? I said an hour, hour and 15. I said, sweet. So I did the whole thing. best show ever cuz I wasn't rushed. You know. And if you get a laugh every 10 or 15 seconds, you're doing good. And I kept going. So I that was the best thing. So from that point on, if there's any, like nationally, touring comics, and other comics know that I want to open up for them because I need to stretch my legs with a half an hour, 45 minutes, then they call me. So it's not really open mic. And I don't they want to give me money. But I don't take it. I just, I mean, what is that? 100 100 200 bucks, I just do it for the fun of it. I want to make other people laugh. Alright, now back to my

 

Jeff Sterns  32:36

knowledge. I get on our fan, wanting people to laugh and I can understand wanting to entertain people for no money because this podcast is costing me money. I'm sorry, if someone offered me money, I don't know that I would turn it down. So you actually turn it down. Like we're gonna mail you a check or send you cash app and you're like, man,

 

32:57

no, they want to give me cash then in there.

 

Jeff Sterns  33:00

And you're like,

 

33:02

comics, okay, this this is a this is my escape from life. I want to go out there and laugh. I want to make people laugh, right? I want to laugh with them. Right? These other people that are around me the other comics, they're looking at this more of a as a life ambition or job or stuff like that. Give those guys money. The comedy scene is pretty. It's a blast. I mean, they have comedy competitions, but it's based on how many people you can bring in I hate those. Right? Oh, yeah, you bring those evil. And I felt so bad cuz I made it to the semifinals that just one club, funniest guy in the Midwest or something like that, or so. I know a lot of these other comics came from out of out of state or out of the city. They couldn't bring anyone to the show. So I had mine stacked because I was right around the comedy club anyway. Right? So I wasn't going to go up there when they voted My name because I knew everybody in there right? And when they forced me to go on stage, I went on stage but I was telling all the other comics you're a great comic I'm gonna win this thing not saying that I was cocky but because all those people in there out in the audience are my friends we they're you know saying so I just didn't want to I anyway, I just do it for fun to get away from life. Now let me go back to the

 

Jeff Sterns  34:18

so that entire segue was about that your car just burned up all of your possessions is burned up you probably or actually lost your job already never got the job. The guy hung up on you so we can assume your ties burnt up to the knot and you got to show tonight and you went there in those clothes and let them laugh.

 

34:40

Yeah, I thought was part of the show. They didn't know I smelled like I was you know cooking marshmallows or whatever. But so I did. I made people laugh through my tragedy and that night, I wrote on Facebook I said, I wrote a story said today life kick me square in the nuts. And I said but thankfully I had my cup on and I would still give you the shirt. off my back but it's kind of smoky right? So some a dentist friend of mine saw that and he said you want to borrow my car? You know you don't have a car you need to get a job blah, blah, blah. So I got a job up by Chicago but in Indiana finally had a car got another job. Right? So we went up there man, the kids, right? It was their summertime. I didn't have a dime in my pocket. But the doctor I worked with put put us up if this apartment, you know, he paid the first month's rent or whatever. We had nothing. I mean, the only seat in the house was porcelain. Right? And I made I made spaghetti out of a pan. Right a saucepan. So and I remember we would all take our blankets or clothes that people donated, now's our pillow. I mean, it's like little house in a period but in an apartment, right? So we would sleep on our clothes to make a little padding on the floor. That's how mean that's three kids live. Then I got to a point where I think we were there for eight weeks. And they got called I got called into the office saying I was fired. I never got fired my life. I said what the hell am I fired for? They said you didn't sell $2,000 a week for the vitamins. I said, Whoa, that's a lot of money for one but for two I was never told that a quarter to me. So anyway, he he let me go. So the last check I got. I said the kids. We've never been to Florida. Let's go on vacation. That's it. I went down there and Chris got me a job selling cars. I can't say with the S i can say he got me selling car. Because I sold one. Anyway, so so we went down there. So awesome. That he was there to help us out and saw what's going on. So the kids, we all went down to Florida. We stayed in that whites night or whatever, that don't be placed on 19 over there. That hotel. Okay, yeah. So we pulled in there. And I figured out the way the money thing was gonna work while I was getting $300 a week. But I was spending $100 a day to get to work and back. Right? Or for food and whatever it was in Tampa. I said, Okay, we'll make this work. So I would call my friends down around that area. You whoever was there? Hey, would you go over to room eight, slide a pizza under the door so my kids can eat? I'm at work, you know what I mean? So they would do that or check on them whatever. You know, I had to do what I could do. But then they had the Chris at work will say hey, you want let's go to lunch, we're going to Steakhouse. Is that the other said now? I'm not hungry. Go ahead. I would stay there because I didn't have any money. Right? I didn't want to get a bill. Right? Or I didn't want to pay. So I said now that's okay. But the biggest thing was is I wasn't gonna eat lunch. If I knew my kids weren't eating lunch. We're all gonna suffer together. I'm not gonna do it. Right. So then when they go to work or whatever, they come back and wanted to sneak in there, grab some food here and there. They would never know. I mean, Chris knows now but I see that

 

Jeff Sterns  37:58

for in one of our.

 

38:00

Yeah, this is one of our

 

Jeff Sterns  38:02

guests already on connected through cars. When you watch the Kevin Butterfield episode. When you wonder where your leftover cream spinach from the Steakhouse went?

 

38:13

I got it. Yeah, so I mean, so anyway,

 

38:16

so what's one car now?

 

Jeff Sterns  38:17

You know, I'm a car salesman. So this is what I care about. And kids. So I care about your kids. And I care about you were there for how long and sold one car?

 

38:25

Six weeks? I

 

Jeff Sterns  38:26

think. So you basically sucked.

 

38:28

I basically sucked. I mean, it could have been five weeks training. But yeah, I so long. Anyway, so it was I was worried about the kids. I mean, it was hard for me to focus. Sometimes they would come in and say in the car in the back of the car a lot all day. So I keep an eye on them might not have been. So yeah, I mean, this is like, what, six years ago, this wasn't too long ago. So anyway, so we did that. I would go to the apartment after not eating all day. If there was any food left over, I would eat it. If there was not I would not eat. So I would go a couple days without eating right. So you just had you had to do what you had to do to get to the next point, right. So we had the camera what it was we had, I couldn't afford to live there, obviously. So I had to go back home. And we made it to Georgia. That's how far the gas got us to a Walmart in Atlanta. We pulled in a parking lot stayed overnight in a parking lot and Walmart in the car, trying to find somebody in Indiana that wants to get send me some money for some treatments when I get there. And a friend of mine did. So we made it all the way back. I'm a big give back kind of guy. Yes. Because I don't want to see anyone go through what I've been going through, you know what I mean? or suffer or be sad or be you know, different so I started a thing where Okay, I'm not gonna I come in on a Saturday. Everyone that comes in that day is free. As you're not free. You're gonna give me a toy that I can break To the hottest Children's Hospital in India to give them a toy. The kids in the hospital suffering because the parents aren't there overnight, to give him a stuffed animal, the whole, right? You got to give back. I'm giving back you give back, right? So I started doing that. And then it kept expanding, expanding, expanding. So we filled up a whole room, I filled up a whole u haul truck, I spent two weeks out of a month giving away free stuff to get all these toys for the kids, right? So I stuffed the U haul truck went up there in a window, the room or the lobby where everyone else does. And I said I need some red wagons because that's what they use for the hospital. I said, I get a lot of toys for these kids. With someone come out and help me load them up. I don't think anyone help me. So I loaded up like 30 wagon loads full of toys and slapped them in the lobby, to tell them to take it to the cheer guild is what they call it. Or the kids toy room. So when I was leaving, because I unloaded, some lady runs and goes, you want to get a picture with this. I said what do I want to picture this for? And they go oh, for advertising for your business? I said this isn't about me. It's about the kids. No, thank you. I'll see you later. And just left, right. That's not about me, you know? So we said how can we raise more money? How can we raise more money so we did this? It's like an import versus domestic run what you brung car event, where you got to do a drag race skid pad out across slalom, a car show, do stuff like that. You're on Team import Team USA, but it's all for the kids. Toy room. Kids can never have enough toys, right? So it's for the kids. And the week before the show. We would bring the car up to the Children's Hospital. We let them come down and sign their car, right. So on the fender is said Dr Butterfield's honorary co pilots, and they would sign the whole car. So I remember this first kid was the car was all wax clean, ready to go. And this kid came out and some blue scrubs and I said, Hey, come here, man said you want to sign this car? He goes, What? Yeah, here's a marker. You wanna sign that car? He goes, yeah. I said, Go ahead. Soon as he started assigning this, I don't let's get out here. The owners governments, you know, I guess. Like that. Anyway, so I got all these signatures all over the car. And I remember, it's a cheerful thing for some, some grandparents or parents that come down that lost a child. They want to put their name on it and they passed. But there's one kid came down with his little brother, little sister. He was on a gurney. Seven nurses holding bags around him pushing into the car. And he wanted to sign the car, obviously. He had a cookie in his hand. And I had a pen in my hand. So I said, Hey, you want to make a fair trade? You want treatment a cookie for a pen? He goes, No. I said, Okay, well, here's the pen signer name. He signed his name his kids, little brother little sister signed around it as mom put a big smiley face around all of them. Right? So, and that that year, the race was, you know, two weeks away. So I said,

 

43:05

I went up to the mom and said, Hey, I'll see you guys in two weeks. And then she started to cry. And she goes, Well, you won't see my son. He's they gave him a week. And he wanted to sign this before he goes, Oh, my boy. And she was but we'll be out there because he's out in the car. We want to see him race. So that's actually what happened. Right? So that was very humbling, very heartwarming. But anyway, so I think I was texting and driving before most. That was a problem. You know, with T nine it takes a long night the buttons. So I was driving driving down the road with this car. This race car street car, I'm driving down the street, texting and driving going to a basketball game. I look up in a split second. I see a telephone pole right in front of me. Right so I didn't know. Right? I knew enough to hit head on not banana wrap it around, right. So I hit it straight on should the telephone pole off at the base. And where the pole came was between the hood and Fender right down that line. And right here on the fenders with a kid side of the passed away right right there. So it's like it's split, right? The hood in the fender. I didn't have my seat belt on at that time. I normally always do. I started to go out the windshield and mirror my head breaking the rearview mirror. Because the pole had to get in so far to the electric box and miss the sensors in the bumper, and when right past them, but right at the base of the window is the electric electronics. So once it hit that my head was halfway out the windshield. airbag blew up and punched me right in the nuts and threw me back in the seat. Right so that's true. So I was back in the seat. It was kind of dark. I looked it up and I was sideways on a railroad track. I felt this warm liquid coming down my face and said oh man, my face is really cut. So that I just you know, dabbed on the wet spot and I like this Oh shit. That's my coffee. So I spilled my coffee, I wasn't cut. And some guy was walking up to the car and I said, Hey, don't open that door. Don't touch the car. If it gets warm in here, I'll be right out. You don't get to go out and fire because now that's a telephone pole that's not high voltage or whatever. Anyway, there's only three pictures taken to the wreck friends came up to pictures of the car. Somebody said to me, who's that in the picture with you? staring they're looking Hi. So I was holding the headlight looking at the car and splattered pieces all over the highway. I said I was alone. And I said, Now someone in the picture with you. I looked at the picture. And it looks like there's a kid grabbing my leg looking back over his shoulder at the car where I'm looking. You have this photo, I do have this photo. So it looks like I got my hand on his back and he's hugging my leg looking at the car with me. Like it was that kid that was on that Gurney. Right. So everyone's looked at and said, Do you know someone right there with you? So anyway, y'all send me that picture, too. Wow.

 

Jeff Sterns  45:55

That's an amazing story. My attitude is Hey, you got to go through all these trials and tribulations for the big day or whatever. You know, I'm just all about the give back since third grade. You're now partners with Julie cloud in brain forest centers.

 

46:09

Yeah, her and I started the brain four centers. What I didn't say as I started the neurofeedback, but I was missing a big component is to do the gut stuff because the gut is your second brain because your neurotransmitters are made there. And you got to send the best ones to your brain. I didn't have that part. I was okay on the neck up. Julie is the perfect one for everything else. And the brain she does trains the brain as well. And I've

 

Jeff Sterns  46:31

been to the clinic and it's very nice. I recommend anyone contact you for any number of reasons. I mean, whether it's autism, which is how you and I started talking about it, of course for my son, but whether it be post traumatic stress, sleep problems, addiction, and I know I'm missing a lot, but I know you've had a lot of luck in those areas. Y'all wanna?

 

46:50

Yeah, I would also like to tell you why are you done talking Jeff? Cuz I'm talking a lot. I mean, I can be quiet. No, I

 

Jeff Sterns  46:56

really appreciate you letting me say something. Really?

 

46:58

Okay, go ahead.

 

Jeff Sterns  46:59

Thank you. No, I did. No,

 

47:01

that was fine. Those beautiful that's sitting right here. Alright, so it doesn't you don't need to come to me you need to go to anybody that does neurofeedback, that resets the timing of your brain. I can just tell you a little bit about it. It's been around since the 60s NASA uses it. They do this first in Europe. If you got anything going on up here. They'll do this the neurofeedback that doesn't work. Let's talk about it. If that doesn't work this medicated Americans backwards. So it's medicated first. That's a problem. PTSD military guy. He could not sleep for more than an hour and a half a night before breaking up a night sweats night terrors, everything for nine years, hour and a half. He had 30 jobs 30 relationships, tried to kill himself twice. As just I said, Man, somebody's got to put a stick in those spokes and stop it. You need to, you know, he was stuck in fight or flight mode all the time, you know, instead of being there in fight or flight mode 3% of the days in or 100% of the day ready for the threat. And he couldn't calm down. So he did the talk therapy, the medicine He did everything. Right. And then we did a brain map on him and said he wouldn't look at the results. That's why I'm looking at the map. Because I don't want you telling me what everyone else did. This is the way it is. So well, if that's the way it is this way it is. But I'll tell him that I said no. I mean, your brain is on fire. You can't shut down your non stop, right? So we did. We hooked him up on training. And then when he was done with the first half an hour session, he looked different. Julian, everyone else saw him. And he said with a smile on his face. He goes, this is how we used to feel. I said Well, that's probably placebo. You just did a one time. You know what I mean? Anyway, so after the third session, he sleeps eight to 10 hours a night still does. He's not jumpy. You can hang around Fourth of July, somebody can drop a book behind him, he doesn't freak out and want to kill him. Right? He can process the stresses better, his brain is working better. So he's fine with that. And I also had this lady since you're gonna let me keep talking. She came in I did a consult on her for everything we did and how it can help how it can help. There's no charge for that we didn't do a brain map or we didn't do anything. Right. She goes, she got up and goes this shit don't work. And I said, Okay, good. Thank you. We're done with our console. Thanks for coming in. See you later. Whatever. So she comes in the next day like what the hell are you doing here? This shit don't work. And she goes, I'm going to show you it doesn't work, hook me up. said sit out. So she sat down. We hooked her up and she started getting a smile on her face because her story is stress, anxiety, PTSD, 100 miles an hour all the time, going home to work from work in the shower. 100 miles an hour. Could not chill. So I said I sit down. Let's see what happens. So she did it. And she walked out here with a smile. And she went home. And her husband said What the hell's going on with you? Why are you smiling? We're not going out on our day tonight and you tell us why you're smiling. You know, because she was calm and relaxed and she's still that way. today. And just 30 miles an hour going home. 30 miles coming back. You know what she does in the shower, she takes a shower. There you go. I mean, it's very simple. So anyway, our brains can get overactive. Okay, Jeff, you got something to say. And in the back of the class good.

 

Jeff Sterns  50:07

I'll leave that alone. The, the the barn door about when she's in the shower, she just takes a shower. But your average patient unless it's changed was driving an hour and a half, two hours a direction.

 

50:21

Yeah, I mean, some of them, some of them drive that far. We got people coming from Detroit to Indiana and you know, Louisville, Chicago. Yeah, they come from all over. That's incredibly because another key thing that we do is we do you know, we see IndyCar drivers talk to your athletes peak performance training, we do this kind of stuff. But we do concussion detection mitigation stuff. Like if you can see, like it's a fuel gauge, meet it around on a brain map. It's mild, moderate, severe, how bad your concussion won't tell us when you got to won't tell us how many you got? It will tell us yeah, you look like you got the signatures of a concussion. But with this training, you can take that mild, moderate severe, you can bring it back to either mild or insignificant. Which if you think about you just scrubbed out the effects that concussion could have or would have on you down the road, you cleaned it out of there. Those are the people that drive long distances because they can see big results of this.

 

Jeff Sterns  51:16

So Kevin, what's something that nobody knows about you?

 

51:20

I'm not wearing pants right now? What Don't they know about me? What's

 

Jeff Sterns  51:24

something that you wish people knew about you?

 

51:27

I don't want any attention, I guess. Now it's kind of like you want people to remember you later when you're gone. Talk about me then, if I made an impact on someone's life or something, you know, that's, again, we have more more sticks in the fires of other things that we have to do, which has a huge give back and life changing for anyone who does it uses it, whatever.

 

Jeff Sterns  51:44

Who that you know or don't know has been most inspirational in your life. Annie Silverman, Andy Silverman perfect.

 

51:52

Yeah, Andy. I know he'll be watching this too. So that molded me from being the jerk. You know, how dare you play with somebody's emotions, your mind their mind would help pick on whatever condition they have. How dare you do that? Who am I to do that? So I want to fix that. I want to fix my wrong with everyone else that has a wrong

 

Jeff Sterns  52:16

well put. So folks you've had Kevin Butterfield chiropractor. neurofeedback clinician.

 

52:25

Yeah, I don't do that. I don't do the chiropractic stuff anymore. Because of the work hazards. You know, the Thai stuff? No, I want to focus on people that can help. Because when I was adjusting the parents, as a chiropractic stuff, I'd always look at the kid in the corner of the room standing over their parents with a glazed over eyes, the one that was different, the one that's being teased. And I said I want to get that kid. You know, I don't care about the back just to treat them here and there. I want to change their life when they're young. So they don't have issues down the road. I want to get on my knees look in your eye in the kids eyes and say no, you're in there. That's what I wanted to name this place. I know you're in there. And I'm going to get your ass out of there. Right. But it was out voted. It was voted up

 

Jeff Sterns  53:07

the tagline and I'll get your ass out of there.

 

53:10

Yeah, so

 

Jeff Sterns  53:10

if I wouldn't go good. Yeah, but I appreciate the time.

 

53:13

I appreciate time with you two very interesting story. And I'm sure more will pitch will pick up some other ones

 

Jeff Sterns  53:19

next time when you give me some notes about what we'll talk about. Well, we did

 

53:23

I think we did good. I mean, we jammed we jam I just just edited out and put some hair right here. Photoshop some hair right there. It doesn't have to match the close. Close works. Well,

 

Jeff Sterns  53:36

I appreciate what you do for humanity, Kevin. Oh,

 

53:39

you go. That's what it's all about.

 

53:44

This has been Jeff Sterns connected through cars.

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Jeff Sterns

 

00:02

Jeff Sterns connected through cars, if they're bigwigs, we'll have him on the show and yes, we'll talk about cars and everything else. Here he is now, Jeff Sterns,

 

Jeff Sterns  00:20

Jeff Sterns, with Dr. Butterfield on Jeff Sterns connected through cars I'm very proud to have Kevin on the show. Kevin is in the business of neurofeedback, which can map a patient's brain so that later after an injury, they could actually train the brain back to prior to an accident. Nevin has a racing safety patent that f1 uses a part of

 

00:47

correct thank Well said. Well

 

Jeff Sterns  00:48

said, Jeff. Also, Kevin has some very interesting stories about his own racing mayhem. But I'll talk about at least driving the race car home. That's how

 

00:57

we met all these years ago is is from what I do. I did my chiropractic internship down there when I was doing that. And you were a patient, and you tried to get me my first car down there. So I mean, we do have a car connection we still do now. And wow. I mean, come on,

 

Jeff Sterns  01:15

Kevin. So there's no doubt we have a car connection, or that we were connected through the car business. I mean, you were you were an intern at a chiropractor office studying to get your license, I'm assuming or be a full fledged, or you're already a chiropractor?

 

01:29

No, I had to do my internship first and take the boards and I never never passed it down. That's political. I mean, it's not so I took it twice. And I failed it twice down there. And every other student took it in the past the first thing you know, yeah, well, that's

 

Jeff Sterns  01:42

what I said about my school grades. It must be political. But

 

01:45

is

 

Jeff Sterns  01:47

it is your you were already related through the car business, because you were a chiropractor. So you're in the business of mainly helping people that got in car wrecks. Correct? Let's face it, come on. But what we've discovered over the years, because we go back over 30 years is that you are a car not and you are connected to the car industry, and you are a car owner, and for a minute you are a car seller. And if I'm not mistaken, you are even a full year from a car burning. What? Leaving a car that was on fire? Yeah, yeah. If we can talk about that. I don't know,

 

02:22

that we can talk about all that stuff. I mean, it's a story. You know. I mean, my life is pretty interesting. I mean, it's like, I mean, it's like, you know, I'm a circus without a tent, I got a bunch of things going on all the time, you know, I got 10 things going on. At the same time, in case something doesn't work, it always gets the most to go to what I always have entrepreneurial, I guess, brain, I guess, you know, I did the chiropractic stuff, or my dad was a brain surgeon, you know, I was always fascinated with the brain. And he was a doctor for the Tigers, Tiger Stadium. And I always went to home games with him, you know, when there was a home game, but we never got to see a home game because he always got called into the hospital to do brain surgery, you know, fire accidents, or gunshots or whatever. So he put me in the observation booth to watch some of these surgeries as a kid. So probably from the age of eight to 10. I saw a lot of them with this poking around in the brain. So I got to see a lot of that. And that was kind of my passion. And that's the path that I want it to go down. But he told me, no, you don't want to go down that path. Because you got to cut through all the good to get to the bad when you come back out. It's all bad, right? So he said, find a natural, holistic way to do it. So he recommended chiropractic. So I did that I, you know, got my my license in that back in 91. And then I had to do my internship when I went down to Clearwater, that's where we met. I love doing it. My practice in Arizona, in Indiana. And I got out of chiropractic like six years ago to focus on what I really wanted to which was back to the brains. Right. And there's a reason I had to go back to the brains because this is another part of my life that it's hard. This is gonna be hard to believe. But in third grade, third and fourth grade, I was a bully. Not a physical bully, but a metal bully. Right friend of mine, his name is Andy Silverman. I'm sure he's gonna watch this, but he was my little Jewish buddy. He gets mad when I say you're my little Jewish buddy. I don't know why, but he always was. We went to the same school and again, this is third grade, and this

 

Jeff Sterns  04:16

was blue. This was West Bloomfield, Michigan, if I'm not

 

04:19

mistaken.

 

Jeff Sterns  04:20

So there you know, there's a lot of Jewish buddies but continued.

 

04:24

Absolutely. So, but this one especially. So he was different. Nobody knew what was wrong with him. He thought I hung the moon and you know, he was wanting to be my best friend and you know everything else, but I always I would always pick on him mentally. You know, like, I make jokes about him in front of him.

 

Jeff Sterns  04:40

And he does not know she didn't understand what was going on. So it did he think it was a little funny because he couldn't pick up that it was at his expense.

 

04:47

Yeah, he laughed cuz I laughed because everyone else left. Okay, but it all happened to him or we're all laughing because of him or whatever. So anyway, I remember two instances where this one time the teacher asked Who wants to go clean these

 

05:03

Blackboard erasers? You know, I said I do. And the teacher said, you can pick one friend that clean erasers with you. Who do you want to pick? Of course, nobody raised their hand. But Andy jumped up and raised his hand said, Pick me Pick me Pick me. I was looking around everyone else because they weren't standing up, you know? And then I said, Okay, I'll take Andy, come on. So as soon as we walked out the door, I took those chalkboard erasers, and I smacked him on the head with them. Right? He had all this big curly hair, we walk turn right around, went back into class, he looked like George Washington, you know, because it's all here. It was all chopped up. So class, and everyone else was laughing. And he was looking at me, like, What do I do? Do I laugh too? And you know, so it was heartbreaking back then. Right? So then another incident was we had a trampoline, they came to the school, you know, as some new fancy thing that, okay, your school will get it for a day, take it to a next school like a traveling trampoline show. So I was back there taking telling Andy to sit and stay in the back of the gym, because I'm going to jump in jump and jump. And when I say it's your turn, you can go. Right, What a dick. So I remember him getting excited when you see me making my lap around it. He says, Can I go now? Can I go now? And I said no, you cannot go now. So we did that the whole hour, right? And then finally, when they came around for the last time he goes, this is about at the end of the period, right? He goes, Can I go now? And I said yes, you can go. And he started to run to the trampoline and the bell rang. Wow. And then he was like I could I could visualize what he's wearing that day. I remember him trying to avoid the teachers who were trying to get him to get him away from the trampoline, because the class was over with. He just wanted to experience the trampoline he never did. So then he came back to me and he you know, he was crying, right? He was crying. And I said to myself, well, if I can make somebody cry for saying no to them, I'm never gonna say no to them again. And again, this is third grade, he went somewhere else in fourth and I went to a different school and fourth grade to never heard from him again. But from that point on, I was now the physical bully candy guy. If somebody is going to make fun of a slow person, they come to me this Well, I was I was buddies with all the slow people that they have a problem. They come to me and say so and so's picking on me, I go talk to so and so and talk to them about it. Right? So I was now more like the physical bullies trying to help, you know. Anyway. So once we did went our separate ways, I went in the military, and all it could do is think about this Andy kid. So I remember I wrote like Oprah or Dr. Phil back then or something like that. This was when I was in the military. I said, I want to find this Andy Silverman kid, I love Jewish buddy, because I want to sit and look at him face to face and say, first of all, I'm sorry. And second of all, I want to thank him for making making me who I am today. Because it was him. And it also anyway, I could never find him. So then Facebook comes along. And five years ago or so. I recognize this picture. I said, all there's my little Jewish friend with no curly hair anymore, but I know that smile. That's him. So I reached out to him. I said, Andy, give me your number, I gotta call you. And again, nobody knew what was wrong with him. Right? Some was a little different, but nobody knew back then. So he gave me his number. I called him up and said, Andy, and before I said anything, he said, I want you to help me find a girlfriend. I said, Andy, I'll help you find a girlfriend. Okay? You got to be nice to him, buy her flowers, open her door, get a nice suit, make sure it fits and throw in some thick Tex, you know, if I was trying to help this kid, right? Get a girlfriend cuz that's all he wanted. Right? So after all these years, I didn't get to say I'm sorry. I said, I will help you get a girlfriend Andy. No problem. And then he said it was quiet. He goes, What if she won't let me jump on the trampoline? I said any then that's not the right one for you. So he carried that thing, you know, with him his whole life sort of lie. Right? So that was really heartbreaking to me to hear that. But I said Andy, I'm doing stuff. That's why I started this neurofeedback stuff the brain force centers because I don't want to see any other anti silver men out there. That's different. Being on the other side of the fence. I want them on the other side with everybody else. So that's why I started the brain force back in the day to make sure there's no more Andy Silverman's or help as many as I can. So that's why this kid's been sticking around for the whole time. But I told him when I was done with the first call. I said, Andy, we are going to get we're going to help so many people throughout our lives long after we're gone because we're going to start a foundation we're going to call it Andy's trampoline with what we're doing here to help him right now by the kids and fearful cat. So that's that's that route. And like you said that I am in an avid car nut, I would study because we had nothing else to do. frame by frame accidents. You know where to get the videotapes is a kid looking at the impact angles, what caused This driver to die What caused him to get hurt? What could have prevented that? So that was my thing, even as a kid, right? That's what my I love racing. I always do. And you know, you don't want to make it, the racing. So vanilla that nobody gets hurt or grandma can get out there and drive and you know, get on the podium. So I came up with ideas, I guess. So I got so many pieces of the puzzle that are coming together. And you want me to say what made me do this patent thing? Well, Kevin, stop. You want a seventh seventh inning stretch right now. Thanks

 

Jeff Sterns  10:29

for thanks for allowing me to participate in a show. Yeah.

 

10:34

Yeah. If you got something to say, go ahead. So no,

 

Jeff Sterns  10:39

I'm where I am interested in we are in I'm sure the audience is interested in? How do you end up coming up with a safety component? What makes you interested in looking at safety? And then how did you come up with it? And what is it? or What is it? And then well, first of all,

 

10:56

you know, I mean, what back in the 50s or 60s, you know, you lost about, you know, two drivers a month, three drivers a month or something like that. And back then it was mostly fires, you know, you strapped to a bomb and some metal gas tank and those things rupture, then the whole thing's on fire. Right? They get the bladders. But see, the problem that I saw was when like Dan Wheldon died, right, I watch that tape over and over and over and over again, just like he did every other one before that always is a 15. Right? There's always a secondary collision. That is the deadly ones. Like if you watch it, then well then crash there was five cars it's kind of fun of them because he got in the air and went airborne started down well, then he got the catch fence. So if you can stop that the secondary collisions, there's the secondary blow overs or, or stuff like that. I mean, you can pretty much have the problem minimized. I mean, right now, the first guy is gonna crash. Okay, that's you're gonna crash that's racing, right. But the secondary and supplemental stuff you can prevent. And part of that the Formula One I can't go into much detail out of, but it's the virtual safety car was a piece of the one that took out ours all these years back. But our thing is to have the cars talking to each other cars, throw the flags, not the people in the stands, or the flag guy, right? Because the flag guy before, you know, I've done interviews with these track marshals and stuff like that the safety workers, and when they see smoke, right, they feel the flag, but the time that smoke registers your brain to register your hand to throw the flag. So much time has passed, and all the cars have traveled another couple 100 feet, couple, you know, few football fields. And after all the secondary stuff comes in. So what if the cars themselves, the first car that causes the accident can throw the flag, right, the telemetry is off, it knows what it's doing. But all the cars talk to each other. So you know where the other one is in space and time. So they're not running over each other. They're not getting up in the fence. They're not getting through the fence, right. So that's the piece that's one of the pieces, there's a lot of other pieces. But that's a big thing, too, right. And then I was sitting there complaining about the that Halo thing that we're putting on the guard. And then on the on the cockpit, it's a halo thing to keep debris from coming at you did say that Formula One driver, but I have like a virtual canopy. And the first car was a flag, it's got radar going out, it knows what trash is brought bouncing down the track. So with telemetry, you can make sure that piece does not hit the cockpit of the car. That's common toward it. Right? So it's all you know, the physics and the telemetry and so it'd be like a virtual canopy. That's another piece of mine. I mean, I got all this stuff kind of laid out, kind of I got to keep stuff quiet on some things up on my blog that was racing that WordPress calm. So if you want to

 

Jeff Sterns  13:39

racing wellness racing.wordpress.com. Now, if I and we'll make sure to put that in the show notes. Kevin. Now if I recall, you had a blog that you couldn't find or couldn't log into my head.

 

13:52

That's the one. So I mean, I wrote from the very first accident and racing all the way to when I lost the password, which is about six years ago, but everything else is current. Right. So yeah, you can look on that. But I mean, it's the racing thing has been

 

Jeff Sterns  14:08

so what parts are, what parts are f1 using? What are they using in Europe? Well, it's a

 

14:13

virtual safety car that's all I can say on that one. They bought a Derek Daly bought that to them like six years ago, seven years ago, whenever started and they said you can try that. There is more to it though, which I can't discuss which will something happens when the nose of the car gets off the ground at a certain speed at certain heights. Something else happens I can't some of some of these flaps and stuff the aero flaps, they keep the cars on the track. That's part of it. But again, you got to develop all that stuff. You have to it was bought forth in Paris with Formula One when they had their annual meeting twice about the stuff we had and everyone was for it. Everyone loved everything it did set team India I think had a minor problem with it, but everyone else was all on board with it. So anyway, that's That's that, you know, I got too many things going on, you know, I

 

Jeff Sterns  15:02

can't. We'll be cutting that out because no information.

 

15:06

No edits, no information. Cut it up, please.

 

Jeff Sterns  15:08

So you raised yourself a little bit, didn't you?

 

15:11

I just just here and they're overseas in here. Yes. I mean, it's like track days and stuff like that. I mean, it's nothing. Open wheel. Nothing, you know, fancy like that. But I did, I did figure out the sponsor thing. Remember? That's a totally different thing.

 

Jeff Sterns  15:26

Yes. And then you are also in the business of having exotic car track days. Yeah, the arriving drive? Yes.

 

15:33

This is when a brand the time that we wanted to start the brain for Center, which is actually the center helping these kids. You know, we had to bootstrap it. I mean, it was a company down in Miami that wanted to give us a million bucks, fly down and meet the bankers sign the paperwork, blah, blah, blah. So we did all the stuff they wanted us to do when we got there, you'll get a term sheet in three days, we never got one. So I was doing the the exotic car arriving drives before we went to that Miami thing, where we just travel all over the country and you know, be the driving instructor in the parking lots or whatever. But I saw how big the crowds were. But we said why don't we Why don't we rent a Lamborghini and Ferrari. And let's do the same thing. And we can raise the money for our centers that way. Right. So that's what we did a few times. Anyway. So that was fun. But let's get out of that. The people we got him from we rented the Lambo and the Ferrari for the weekend, right? They couldn't get insurance anymore. So we had to stop. Oh, that settles that.

 

Jeff Sterns  16:32

You're a chiropractor down and you're

 

16:34

doing the chiropractic stuff. I just got out of school. I knew everything. You can't tell me anything. I was that kind of cocky guy. I remember Dr. Brown said, Hey, why don't you go in there and adjust that guy said with a grin on his face. He said, Okay. So I had this, you know, $100 Nicole Miller tie on. I was dressed to the nines. And I walked in. And I, the biggest guy I've ever seen in my entire life was sitting in there. He was like 500 pounds, right? He was he looked he was wearing white sweats. That's a good color choice or Michelin, but so slimming. slimming. So anyway, his arms are sticking straight out like a snowman. Right? But he was so big. I couldn't see the table. So it was looked like it was a floating marshmallow in the room. Right? I said what brings you in? Because that back pain? And I said, No kidding. I told this guy lay down, right? So I'm sitting there and he's a big, he's a he's a thick slab of meat, you know, with him on the table. He was like, a foot from my chin. He was that thick. So I remember I strapped his ankles in, put my hand on his back. And I started stretching his back, right? Because you know, I was trying to get some distraction going on in there, right? And if you can visualize where things are in that room with him on his stomach. My hand was his low back. My other hand was down there by his feet. And my tie was right there in corn Canyon, let's say right? It was just sitting there. Alright, so I'm pushing on this guy's back. He said you didn't get it. And I said, I got it. He goes, No, you didn't. I didn't hear any pop either. Right. But I knew everything. I said, Yeah, got it. He goes, No push harder. I say, Okay, I'll push her. So put my hand on his back and my feet came off the ground like I was on a pommel horse in the Olympics. I gave everything I had. I didn't hear anything that time either, right? But I look straight down in his ass was getting close to my face. Right? It was like his as cheat for contracting like a tsunami around the globe. Right? I should have gotten I should have backed up right. So I was just wondering what the hell I'm looking at. And so I learned a valuable lesson that day that when somebody that big lets one go they know before you know. Okay, you know that you're watching a Godzilla movie the lips move then you hear the sound was kind of like that. He knew what was up when you're trying to catch his mistake was last cheeks right? By the time I realized what it was his ass cheeks were just about at my chin. My tie was fully engulfed, right. So I did not want to back up and embarrass this guy. Let him know that I was in his junk. So I just stayed there till till it was done. Right. So and this is not a lie either. Again, when you learn something new when your own big people that close to their private area. I felt the wind and the heat coming off of that because my face is right there, right with my tie. So he got up and he wiggles around a little bit. And he goes, I think you got it. I got you think I got it? No, I got it. Right. And I'm sitting there taking my $100 tie off. This is a true story. And I threw it at him. He goes what's that tie for? I said you steam pressed to Krishna thing I'll never get out of there. I don't want to back. Oh my god. Yes, sir. Well, I don't know if you're the best guest I've ever had. No one's gonna top that fart story like that. But anyway, so that war

 

Jeff Sterns  19:49

if that's the best thing that'll end up on the cutting room floor.

 

19:53

That's the only thing that's saved. Just save that one. That could be the start. Oh my god. Thank

 

Jeff Sterns  19:58

you, Kevin.

 

20:00

No, no those. So anyway, there's a lot of hazard stuff that goes on like that, that I really don't appreciate that's happened more than once you told the patient.

 

Jeff Sterns  20:08

You just steam pressed it into my tie,

 

20:11

and I will never get that out. You can have the tie. I did. He kept he walked out with it. I don't know if he ate it on the way to the parking lot or what but yeah, he's done. He took it.

 

Jeff Sterns  20:21

So can we talk about your family?

 

20:23

We want to talk about Yes, talk about everything.

 

Jeff Sterns  20:26

Well, you got kids, I don't know what you want them to hear. But, you know, you're really an amazing father.

 

20:32

Now they'll hear everything anyway. Um, alright, so

 

Jeff Sterns  20:36

let me see. This is the time when you end up you ended up being I mean, I'm single and bother over some boys remarried. But you are like in their mom was only a few blocks away and sees them alternating whatever. But you were a single father single father.

 

21:00

Yeah, I guess I had sole custody. I was with them. As twins, they were maybe eight and older boys. 10. I have sole custody. So they're with me 24 seven. And we'll just leave it at that. I mean, they were with me all the time. Okay. I knew that the practice I was working at and Connersville was going to go down because the factory that was there was going to close and that's where 85% of my patients came from, from the factory. Right. So, and on a side note that I'm proud of, I never left them, even though they lost their job had no money, stuff like that. I stayed there to take care of them, right. I'm very I'm very proud of myself for that, but we had to get some other endeavor going on. So I was going to open up a neurofeedback office. That's what I wanted to do. So I found a place closer to home where I could do the neurofeedback stuff. I went and saw a nice cute little building in front of this factory. So go check on that. I went to check on the on the rent on that building. And the owner of the factory was super cool. He got me in there. So I started doing the neurofeedback on my way home a few nights a week until the practice had to close and then it'd be their full time the guy that owned that building. He said, Hey, why don't you come on over for Christmas dinner? My son is doing Beef Wellington. Is it a culinary school or something like that? I said, Okay, sure. So his house was like a 10,000 square foot home. Eight bedroom 10 bath. basketball court upstairs on 10 acres. Right.

 

Jeff Sterns  22:31

Wow.

 

22:32

I was very impressed with the house. Very cool. So anyway, accelerate up maybe a maybe a year and a year later. I couldn't get the business going there because there was only there a couple hours a night. I could not do the neurofeedback, so I had to close it right. So you're later I came back. And I was gonna tell they already rented that little building in front of the factory. I came back and I was going to open up in the same area because it was doing good in the beginning, right? So when I drove by that big houses for sale sign in the front of the yard, and in the factory where he owned the flags at half staff. I thought maybe the guy died, right. So I went in there to tell the girls Anyway, I'll be in the area. Blah, blah, blah. So So what's his Joe? Is his? Did he die? Or some was? What's the flag at half staff for his houses for sale? He go Oh, no, he moved to Florida. But his partner killed himself in church. That's where the flags at half staff. So anyway, the guy who was taking over the factory for this guy that moved to Florida who owned it, right? He said why don't you rent that house in the boss's house that big house, right? So I don't need a big house like that. I have no interest in it. And then he kept calling me want me to buy it? I said no, I'll rent it. Right? If you can rent it to me for what I'm paying for my rent now and my other house, I'll just take it right? He said deal. So I got that house for like 1300 bucks a month, huge house. The benefit of that is if you get one room dirty, you can move to the next one. And the next one, right? So you never have to clean. So we went in there. And I said, I'm going to take another stab at this office bootstrapping everything myself. Right was like nothing left in your pocket. So I said, I'm going to start it again. But I'm telling you if I can't make it work, I can't pay the rent. Are we clear on that? I was just taking a stab in the dark again. I had the kids with me, right? And he said yes. That's not a problem at all. So he wanted me there in the wintertime make sure the pipes don't freeze or something like that is what my guess is, you know why you gave it so cheap. So I said okay, cool. So anyway, we did a five month run at that practice, but the rent was so much and there was no more income from that other office on Connersville that we had to close and I told the guy, hey, I gotta find something else. This is where we got together later. So anyway, so he said, That's not a problem to stay there. You the kids can stay there. Right. So we stayed there and then If you've got a buyer, we're out. So we say there may be free rent for four months. And he said, I got a buyer. I said, Okay, we're out of here. So I took everything we owned, we put it on Craigslist or sold everything. bicycles, you know, kids stuff, everything gone. Because we needed some money to hold over until we got that on the job, right? We took everything else that we didn't sell. We put it in the trunk of the car that Lincoln Lincoln, Lincoln ls the nice car, right? So jam packed that trunk for everything else. That was our dresser, we went to a hotel. We stayed there for a little bit. Right? And then the money ran out there. So I went to this guy who had that big house. And I said, Look, do you mind if we stay in your garage? I know you sold the house. Could we sit in your garage for a few days I get a job lined up? He said sure. So maybe the kids went sat in the car in the garage as we just rented. We were there. Alright, so

 

Jeff Sterns  25:57

let me let me interrupt here. If you don't mind, you go right ahead. I just want to repaint this picture. I want to clarify this. So we've all been in tough spots. I mean, I talked to another fellow actually the owner of St. Elmo Steakhouse near you, in Indianapolis. And he went through a time, even though he's done quite well in his life where he was selling his paid for cars, and then leasing a car so that he can get a little furniture in the apartment or condo that he was living in where they had TV sitting on top of the TV box has furniture. I mean, now he's owner and partner with his son of one of the nation's most famous steak houses, he took steak and shake public, he took noble Roman pizza public, he had a number of ventures mustards in your area. But he there's always this backstory, and this is what it's yours is reminding me of yours a little bit tougher. Because I want the audience to think about what it would be like, you've got the kids with you. You've got all your belongings in the trunk of the Lincoln. And you've run out of money to the point where you can't even stay one night at a hotel. And I'm imagining that it wasn't the Hyatt, correct. You were staying in?

 

27:15

Yes, it does get worse, but it does get better. So right.

 

Jeff Sterns  27:19

You're staying in a budget hotel. And it gets to the point because I know from a pride and convenience and having your kids sleeping in the car because your father in a garage standpoint, you really have to have no option before you're gonna have to call a guy whose house you know is sold who already helped you and you don't want to put them out anymore to say, Can we just so we don't get picked up for sleeping in a car behind a 711? Can we at least close the garage door? We're going to sleep in this car. Correct? Like Where were you? What was that? Like in that moment? Where were you emotionally?

 

27:53

Well, you gotta be strong for the kids. And you got to always think you know, 10 steps ahead? What what are you going to do? Where are you going? That's not bleach? Is it? Where are you going to go? What do you what are you going to do? I mean, okay, when you when people say life page, baby in the corner, right? Did not paint in the corner and you just stand there, wait for the paint to dry and walk back out. Do it again. So I knew there was an answer. You know, if you call any place to get a job and say you're a doctor, what are you doing all these years I've been a doctor, they're not going to hire you. Because they know you're going to bail. Right? So they don't want to hire you. You go get a chiropractic job. They they eat they're young and don't pay it. Right. I couldn't even find one. Don't pay me Just give me a job. Right. So anyway, I found a job. Finally, through some connections, I said, Okay, I gotta take the kids to school and go to my new job, right? So I'm sitting there, getting their clothes out of the truck. And this thing was packed, how you can even put an extra molecule in there, right? They'd have to go in the glove box. Right? So this effect, so I dropped the kids off at school. I'm heading down to you know, it's about an hour and a half away for this job. I would have had to commute that right. So I'm driving to the job. The lights start flickering on the dashboard. As a typical guy, I said I'll get that later. I'm going 80 miles an hour on the highway. I look in my rearview mirror and smokes pouring in. I said Well, I better pull over and get that now. Right. So what happened is my trunk was on fire because the battery for the cars in the trunk and impacted so much I shorted the damn battery out, you know, stuffing the damn trunk with everything. Some pole over on the side of the road. All I could think about was I must have looked like Cheech and Chong get out of the car when I open the door because the whole thing was a smoke billowing everywhere right. So I got out I did make it off the side of the road but I'm the only thing I could think about is what the hell the kid's gonna wear to school tomorrow. So I got out pop the truck started. Reach into the fire, grabbing anything just throwing it behind me right in my sleeves were all burnt up. Am I Tai was burnt up to a knot, especially getting squished into one guy's ass. But it's it's still. So as burned up to a knot, right, and I looked at everything I threw behind me was on fire anyway, so I said, screw it. And I just sat there and I just started crying. I haven't done it forever, while everyone else was busy with their day driving by to get to their job, right. So I called my new bosses my first day, said, You're not gonna believe this. And they hung up on me, right? What am I gonna do? Right? So I mean, he really can't make up the story that bad, but it was that bad. Right? So I wrote a bad night's ad account comedy show, actually. And I left my burn clothes out of my tie. That was part of the Act. Part of my act called life, right? They didn't know what to make of that. So

 

Jeff Sterns  30:46

I just Oh, Kevin, let's be you know, let's help the audience. So another thing that Kevin does is open mic night. Have you gotten paid or just amateur? Oh,

 

30:56

the longest show? I mean, okay, we know we're gonna sidetrack again, because I'm so good. sidetracking I'll get back to the car to second and my jobs, right? No, I it's six minutes. You do six minutes sets it like a comedy club. I can't do six minutes. Look at me. Now. I keep talking. I don't shut up. So I did this six minute thing for a while I did some funniest comics and Midwest tours. And I've been all the comedy clubs in Indiana. And since Ohio, the big ones. And I went and did a funniest comic in the Midwest in Michigan. It the laugh tracks, you know, that doesn't know why. No, I went up there like four other comics, right? They said, Bring your best five minutes. I said, Oh, cool. Let me drive all that way. for five minutes. It sounds well worth it. I went anyway. And I was with like two or three other comics, they already went, right. So they said they'd never called my name. So I went out there and said, You never called my name. They Hand me the mic and said, Oh, good. You're closing out the show. And I said, Well, how much time I got? I said an hour, hour and 15. I said, sweet. So I did the whole thing. best show ever cuz I wasn't rushed. You know. And if you get a laugh every 10 or 15 seconds, you're doing good. And I kept going. So I that was the best thing. So from that point on, if there's any, like nationally, touring comics, and other comics know that I want to open up for them because I need to stretch my legs with a half an hour, 45 minutes, then they call me. So it's not really open mic. And I don't they want to give me money. But I don't take it. I just, I mean, what is that? 100 100 200 bucks, I just do it for the fun of it. I want to make other people laugh. Alright, now back to my

 

Jeff Sterns  32:36

knowledge. I get on our fan, wanting people to laugh and I can understand wanting to entertain people for no money because this podcast is costing me money. I'm sorry, if someone offered me money, I don't know that I would turn it down. So you actually turn it down. Like we're gonna mail you a check or send you cash app and you're like, man,

 

32:57

no, they want to give me cash then in there.

 

Jeff Sterns  33:00

And you're like,

 

33:02

comics, okay, this this is a this is my escape from life. I want to go out there and laugh. I want to make people laugh, right? I want to laugh with them. Right? These other people that are around me the other comics, they're looking at this more of a as a life ambition or job or stuff like that. Give those guys money. The comedy scene is pretty. It's a blast. I mean, they have comedy competitions, but it's based on how many people you can bring in I hate those. Right? Oh, yeah, you bring those evil. And I felt so bad cuz I made it to the semifinals that just one club, funniest guy in the Midwest or something like that, or so. I know a lot of these other comics came from out of out of state or out of the city. They couldn't bring anyone to the show. So I had mine stacked because I was right around the comedy club anyway. Right? So I wasn't going to go up there when they voted My name because I knew everybody in there right? And when they forced me to go on stage, I went on stage but I was telling all the other comics you're a great comic I'm gonna win this thing not saying that I was cocky but because all those people in there out in the audience are my friends we they're you know saying so I just didn't want to I anyway, I just do it for fun to get away from life. Now let me go back to the

 

Jeff Sterns  34:18

so that entire segue was about that your car just burned up all of your possessions is burned up you probably or actually lost your job already never got the job. The guy hung up on you so we can assume your ties burnt up to the knot and you got to show tonight and you went there in those clothes and let them laugh.

 

34:40

Yeah, I thought was part of the show. They didn't know I smelled like I was you know cooking marshmallows or whatever. But so I did. I made people laugh through my tragedy and that night, I wrote on Facebook I said, I wrote a story said today life kick me square in the nuts. And I said but thankfully I had my cup on and I would still give you the shirt. off my back but it's kind of smoky right? So some a dentist friend of mine saw that and he said you want to borrow my car? You know you don't have a car you need to get a job blah, blah, blah. So I got a job up by Chicago but in Indiana finally had a car got another job. Right? So we went up there man, the kids, right? It was their summertime. I didn't have a dime in my pocket. But the doctor I worked with put put us up if this apartment, you know, he paid the first month's rent or whatever. We had nothing. I mean, the only seat in the house was porcelain. Right? And I made I made spaghetti out of a pan. Right a saucepan. So and I remember we would all take our blankets or clothes that people donated, now's our pillow. I mean, it's like little house in a period but in an apartment, right? So we would sleep on our clothes to make a little padding on the floor. That's how mean that's three kids live. Then I got to a point where I think we were there for eight weeks. And they got called I got called into the office saying I was fired. I never got fired my life. I said what the hell am I fired for? They said you didn't sell $2,000 a week for the vitamins. I said, Whoa, that's a lot of money for one but for two I was never told that a quarter to me. So anyway, he he let me go. So the last check I got. I said the kids. We've never been to Florida. Let's go on vacation. That's it. I went down there and Chris got me a job selling cars. I can't say with the S i can say he got me selling car. Because I sold one. Anyway, so so we went down there. So awesome. That he was there to help us out and saw what's going on. So the kids, we all went down to Florida. We stayed in that whites night or whatever, that don't be placed on 19 over there. That hotel. Okay, yeah. So we pulled in there. And I figured out the way the money thing was gonna work while I was getting $300 a week. But I was spending $100 a day to get to work and back. Right? Or for food and whatever it was in Tampa. I said, Okay, we'll make this work. So I would call my friends down around that area. You whoever was there? Hey, would you go over to room eight, slide a pizza under the door so my kids can eat? I'm at work, you know what I mean? So they would do that or check on them whatever. You know, I had to do what I could do. But then they had the Chris at work will say hey, you want let's go to lunch, we're going to Steakhouse. Is that the other said now? I'm not hungry. Go ahead. I would stay there because I didn't have any money. Right? I didn't want to get a bill. Right? Or I didn't want to pay. So I said now that's okay. But the biggest thing was is I wasn't gonna eat lunch. If I knew my kids weren't eating lunch. We're all gonna suffer together. I'm not gonna do it. Right. So then when they go to work or whatever, they come back and wanted to sneak in there, grab some food here and there. They would never know. I mean, Chris knows now but I see that

 

Jeff Sterns  37:58

for in one of our.

 

38:00

Yeah, this is one of our

 

Jeff Sterns  38:02

guests already on connected through cars. When you watch the Kevin Butterfield episode. When you wonder where your leftover cream spinach from the Steakhouse went?

 

38:13

I got it. Yeah, so I mean, so anyway,

 

38:16

so what's one car now?

 

Jeff Sterns  38:17

You know, I'm a car salesman. So this is what I care about. And kids. So I care about your kids. And I care about you were there for how long and sold one car?

 

38:25

Six weeks? I

 

Jeff Sterns  38:26

think. So you basically sucked.

 

38:28

I basically sucked. I mean, it could have been five weeks training. But yeah, I so long. Anyway, so it was I was worried about the kids. I mean, it was hard for me to focus. Sometimes they would come in and say in the car in the back of the car a lot all day. So I keep an eye on them might not have been. So yeah, I mean, this is like, what, six years ago, this wasn't too long ago. So anyway, so we did that. I would go to the apartment after not eating all day. If there was any food left over, I would eat it. If there was not I would not eat. So I would go a couple days without eating right. So you just had you had to do what you had to do to get to the next point, right. So we had the camera what it was we had, I couldn't afford to live there, obviously. So I had to go back home. And we made it to Georgia. That's how far the gas got us to a Walmart in Atlanta. We pulled in a parking lot stayed overnight in a parking lot and Walmart in the car, trying to find somebody in Indiana that wants to get send me some money for some treatments when I get there. And a friend of mine did. So we made it all the way back. I'm a big give back kind of guy. Yes. Because I don't want to see anyone go through what I've been going through, you know what I mean? or suffer or be sad or be you know, different so I started a thing where Okay, I'm not gonna I come in on a Saturday. Everyone that comes in that day is free. As you're not free. You're gonna give me a toy that I can break To the hottest Children's Hospital in India to give them a toy. The kids in the hospital suffering because the parents aren't there overnight, to give him a stuffed animal, the whole, right? You got to give back. I'm giving back you give back, right? So I started doing that. And then it kept expanding, expanding, expanding. So we filled up a whole room, I filled up a whole u haul truck, I spent two weeks out of a month giving away free stuff to get all these toys for the kids, right? So I stuffed the U haul truck went up there in a window, the room or the lobby where everyone else does. And I said I need some red wagons because that's what they use for the hospital. I said, I get a lot of toys for these kids. With someone come out and help me load them up. I don't think anyone help me. So I loaded up like 30 wagon loads full of toys and slapped them in the lobby, to tell them to take it to the cheer guild is what they call it. Or the kids toy room. So when I was leaving, because I unloaded, some lady runs and goes, you want to get a picture with this. I said what do I want to picture this for? And they go oh, for advertising for your business? I said this isn't about me. It's about the kids. No, thank you. I'll see you later. And just left, right. That's not about me, you know? So we said how can we raise more money? How can we raise more money so we did this? It's like an import versus domestic run what you brung car event, where you got to do a drag race skid pad out across slalom, a car show, do stuff like that. You're on Team import Team USA, but it's all for the kids. Toy room. Kids can never have enough toys, right? So it's for the kids. And the week before the show. We would bring the car up to the Children's Hospital. We let them come down and sign their car, right. So on the fender is said Dr Butterfield's honorary co pilots, and they would sign the whole car. So I remember this first kid was the car was all wax clean, ready to go. And this kid came out and some blue scrubs and I said, Hey, come here, man said you want to sign this car? He goes, What? Yeah, here's a marker. You wanna sign that car? He goes, yeah. I said, Go ahead. Soon as he started assigning this, I don't let's get out here. The owners governments, you know, I guess. Like that. Anyway, so I got all these signatures all over the car. And I remember, it's a cheerful thing for some, some grandparents or parents that come down that lost a child. They want to put their name on it and they passed. But there's one kid came down with his little brother, little sister. He was on a gurney. Seven nurses holding bags around him pushing into the car. And he wanted to sign the car, obviously. He had a cookie in his hand. And I had a pen in my hand. So I said, Hey, you want to make a fair trade? You want treatment a cookie for a pen? He goes, No. I said, Okay, well, here's the pen signer name. He signed his name his kids, little brother little sister signed around it as mom put a big smiley face around all of them. Right? So, and that that year, the race was, you know, two weeks away. So I said,

 

43:05

I went up to the mom and said, Hey, I'll see you guys in two weeks. And then she started to cry. And she goes, Well, you won't see my son. He's they gave him a week. And he wanted to sign this before he goes, Oh, my boy. And she was but we'll be out there because he's out in the car. We want to see him race. So that's actually what happened. Right? So that was very humbling, very heartwarming. But anyway, so I think I was texting and driving before most. That was a problem. You know, with T nine it takes a long night the buttons. So I was driving driving down the road with this car. This race car street car, I'm driving down the street, texting and driving going to a basketball game. I look up in a split second. I see a telephone pole right in front of me. Right so I didn't know. Right? I knew enough to hit head on not banana wrap it around, right. So I hit it straight on should the telephone pole off at the base. And where the pole came was between the hood and Fender right down that line. And right here on the fenders with a kid side of the passed away right right there. So it's like it's split, right? The hood in the fender. I didn't have my seat belt on at that time. I normally always do. I started to go out the windshield and mirror my head breaking the rearview mirror. Because the pole had to get in so far to the electric box and miss the sensors in the bumper, and when right past them, but right at the base of the window is the electric electronics. So once it hit that my head was halfway out the windshield. airbag blew up and punched me right in the nuts and threw me back in the seat. Right so that's true. So I was back in the seat. It was kind of dark. I looked it up and I was sideways on a railroad track. I felt this warm liquid coming down my face and said oh man, my face is really cut. So that I just you know, dabbed on the wet spot and I like this Oh shit. That's my coffee. So I spilled my coffee, I wasn't cut. And some guy was walking up to the car and I said, Hey, don't open that door. Don't touch the car. If it gets warm in here, I'll be right out. You don't get to go out and fire because now that's a telephone pole that's not high voltage or whatever. Anyway, there's only three pictures taken to the wreck friends came up to pictures of the car. Somebody said to me, who's that in the picture with you? staring they're looking Hi. So I was holding the headlight looking at the car and splattered pieces all over the highway. I said I was alone. And I said, Now someone in the picture with you. I looked at the picture. And it looks like there's a kid grabbing my leg looking back over his shoulder at the car where I'm looking. You have this photo, I do have this photo. So it looks like I got my hand on his back and he's hugging my leg looking at the car with me. Like it was that kid that was on that Gurney. Right. So everyone's looked at and said, Do you know someone right there with you? So anyway, y'all send me that picture, too. Wow.

 

Jeff Sterns  45:55

That's an amazing story. My attitude is Hey, you got to go through all these trials and tribulations for the big day or whatever. You know, I'm just all about the give back since third grade. You're now partners with Julie cloud in brain forest centers.

 

46:09

Yeah, her and I started the brain four centers. What I didn't say as I started the neurofeedback, but I was missing a big component is to do the gut stuff because the gut is your second brain because your neurotransmitters are made there. And you got to send the best ones to your brain. I didn't have that part. I was okay on the neck up. Julie is the perfect one for everything else. And the brain she does trains the brain as well. And I've

 

Jeff Sterns  46:31

been to the clinic and it's very nice. I recommend anyone contact you for any number of reasons. I mean, whether it's autism, which is how you and I started talking about it, of course for my son, but whether it be post traumatic stress, sleep problems, addiction, and I know I'm missing a lot, but I know you've had a lot of luck in those areas. Y'all wanna?

 

46:50

Yeah, I would also like to tell you why are you done talking Jeff? Cuz I'm talking a lot. I mean, I can be quiet. No, I

 

Jeff Sterns  46:56

really appreciate you letting me say something. Really?

 

46:58

Okay, go ahead.

 

Jeff Sterns  46:59

Thank you. No, I did. No,

 

47:01

that was fine. Those beautiful that's sitting right here. Alright, so it doesn't you don't need to come to me you need to go to anybody that does neurofeedback, that resets the timing of your brain. I can just tell you a little bit about it. It's been around since the 60s NASA uses it. They do this first in Europe. If you got anything going on up here. They'll do this the neurofeedback that doesn't work. Let's talk about it. If that doesn't work this medicated Americans backwards. So it's medicated first. That's a problem. PTSD military guy. He could not sleep for more than an hour and a half a night before breaking up a night sweats night terrors, everything for nine years, hour and a half. He had 30 jobs 30 relationships, tried to kill himself twice. As just I said, Man, somebody's got to put a stick in those spokes and stop it. You need to, you know, he was stuck in fight or flight mode all the time, you know, instead of being there in fight or flight mode 3% of the days in or 100% of the day ready for the threat. And he couldn't calm down. So he did the talk therapy, the medicine He did everything. Right. And then we did a brain map on him and said he wouldn't look at the results. That's why I'm looking at the map. Because I don't want you telling me what everyone else did. This is the way it is. So well, if that's the way it is this way it is. But I'll tell him that I said no. I mean, your brain is on fire. You can't shut down your non stop, right? So we did. We hooked him up on training. And then when he was done with the first half an hour session, he looked different. Julian, everyone else saw him. And he said with a smile on his face. He goes, this is how we used to feel. I said Well, that's probably placebo. You just did a one time. You know what I mean? Anyway, so after the third session, he sleeps eight to 10 hours a night still does. He's not jumpy. You can hang around Fourth of July, somebody can drop a book behind him, he doesn't freak out and want to kill him. Right? He can process the stresses better, his brain is working better. So he's fine with that. And I also had this lady since you're gonna let me keep talking. She came in I did a consult on her for everything we did and how it can help how it can help. There's no charge for that we didn't do a brain map or we didn't do anything. Right. She goes, she got up and goes this shit don't work. And I said, Okay, good. Thank you. We're done with our console. Thanks for coming in. See you later. Whatever. So she comes in the next day like what the hell are you doing here? This shit don't work. And she goes, I'm going to show you it doesn't work, hook me up. said sit out. So she sat down. We hooked her up and she started getting a smile on her face because her story is stress, anxiety, PTSD, 100 miles an hour all the time, going home to work from work in the shower. 100 miles an hour. Could not chill. So I said I sit down. Let's see what happens. So she did it. And she walked out here with a smile. And she went home. And her husband said What the hell's going on with you? Why are you smiling? We're not going out on our day tonight and you tell us why you're smiling. You know, because she was calm and relaxed and she's still that way. today. And just 30 miles an hour going home. 30 miles coming back. You know what she does in the shower, she takes a shower. There you go. I mean, it's very simple. So anyway, our brains can get overactive. Okay, Jeff, you got something to say. And in the back of the class good.

 

Jeff Sterns  50:07

I'll leave that alone. The, the the barn door about when she's in the shower, she just takes a shower. But your average patient unless it's changed was driving an hour and a half, two hours a direction.

 

50:21

Yeah, I mean, some of them, some of them drive that far. We got people coming from Detroit to Indiana and you know, Louisville, Chicago. Yeah, they come from all over. That's incredibly because another key thing that we do is we do you know, we see IndyCar drivers talk to your athletes peak performance training, we do this kind of stuff. But we do concussion detection mitigation stuff. Like if you can see, like it's a fuel gauge, meet it around on a brain map. It's mild, moderate, severe, how bad your concussion won't tell us when you got to won't tell us how many you got? It will tell us yeah, you look like you got the signatures of a concussion. But with this training, you can take that mild, moderate severe, you can bring it back to either mild or insignificant. Which if you think about you just scrubbed out the effects that concussion could have or would have on you down the road, you cleaned it out of there. Those are the people that drive long distances because they can see big results of this.

 

Jeff Sterns  51:16

So Kevin, what's something that nobody knows about you?

 

51:20

I'm not wearing pants right now? What Don't they know about me? What's

 

Jeff Sterns  51:24

something that you wish people knew about you?

 

51:27

I don't want any attention, I guess. Now it's kind of like you want people to remember you later when you're gone. Talk about me then, if I made an impact on someone's life or something, you know, that's, again, we have more more sticks in the fires of other things that we have to do, which has a huge give back and life changing for anyone who does it uses it, whatever.

 

Jeff Sterns  51:44

Who that you know or don't know has been most inspirational in your life. Annie Silverman, Andy Silverman perfect.

 

51:52

Yeah, Andy. I know he'll be watching this too. So that molded me from being the jerk. You know, how dare you play with somebody's emotions, your mind their mind would help pick on whatever condition they have. How dare you do that? Who am I to do that? So I want to fix that. I want to fix my wrong with everyone else that has a wrong

 

Jeff Sterns  52:16

well put. So folks you've had Kevin Butterfield chiropractor. neurofeedback clinician.

 

52:25

Yeah, I don't do that. I don't do the chiropractic stuff anymore. Because of the work hazards. You know, the Thai stuff? No, I want to focus on people that can help. Because when I was adjusting the parents, as a chiropractic stuff, I'd always look at the kid in the corner of the room standing over their parents with a glazed over eyes, the one that was different, the one that's being teased. And I said I want to get that kid. You know, I don't care about the back just to treat them here and there. I want to change their life when they're young. So they don't have issues down the road. I want to get on my knees look in your eye in the kids eyes and say no, you're in there. That's what I wanted to name this place. I know you're in there. And I'm going to get your ass out of there. Right. But it was out voted. It was voted up

 

Jeff Sterns  53:07

the tagline and I'll get your ass out of there.

 

53:10

Yeah, so

 

Jeff Sterns  53:10

if I wouldn't go good. Yeah, but I appreciate the time.

 

53:13

I appreciate time with you two very interesting story. And I'm sure more will pitch will pick up some other ones

 

Jeff Sterns  53:19

next time when you give me some notes about what we'll talk about. Well, we did

 

53:23

I think we did good. I mean, we jammed we jam I just just edited out and put some hair right here. Photoshop some hair right there. It doesn't have to match the close. Close works. Well,

 

Jeff Sterns  53:36

I appreciate what you do for humanity, Kevin. Oh,

 

53:39

you go. That's what it's all about.

 

53:44

This has been Jeff Sterns connected through cars.